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DE CHAMPERNOUN Matilda (Mabel)
Birth: ABT 1230 Otterham, Cornwall, England
Death: BEF 1269
Notes
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Ivor West speculates that Matilda is the daughter of Oliver Champernoun, as William
Champernoun held Otterham in 1346, indicating it was in the family.
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The following additional information is provided by Curt Hofemann, curt_hofemann AT
yahoo.com:
Actually Ivor West was musing on John Benson's article in DCNQ (Devon & Cornwall
notes & queries) vol. 21 & he used Trans. Dev. Assoc., vol 73, "The Heritage of
Prouz" re: the devolution of Otterham to the Champernouns. Ivor also cited Devon
Fine 605 of 1256 which showed the wife of William de Ferrers was Mabel (NN), which
Ivor states "presumably" is Matilda/Mabel of Otterham.
Note: Mabel is NOT equivalent to Matilda/Mathilda/Maud (scribal errors
notwithstanding)... Curt
Later in the same 6 Aug 1999 message to soc.genealogy.medieval message he states:
"Benson started his article on Otterham by quoting Hingeston-Randolph's comment
"Matilda, Lady of Otterham, i.e., Matilda Champernowne". Does he mean by this that
she was a daughter, say, of Oliver de Champernowne? It would make William de
Champernowne and Joan de Ferrers cousins."
She could also reasonably be 'presumed' to be a non-Champernoun related sole
heiress of Otterham who became the wife of a Champernoun. Without a marriage
record or other more definitive attestation in primary records all is speculaton only...
Curt
Regards,
Curt
Also, as Joan de Ferrers, her daughter, married William Champernoun, Curt adds:
Jim, not to belabor this, but how likely is it that her dau Joan would/could marry her
first cousin? That was a seriously fobidden degree of consanguity that would not have
gone unnoticed & unless a dispensation record is found for Joan & Wm's marriage (or
some other primary record), the ancestry of Joan's purported mother Mabel is still (for
now) unknown.
Regards,
Curt
Parents
DE CHAMPERNOUN Oliver (ABT 1197 - BEF 1242)
____ Wymarca (ABT 1200 - AFT 1238)
Siblings
DE CHAMPERNOUN (CAMPO ARNULPHI) Henry (ABT 1225 - AFT Jul 1281)
DE CHAMPERNOUN Matilda (Mabel) (ABT 1230 - BEF 1269)
Marriage To DE FERRERS William (1225 - BEF 1279)
m.
Notes
Parents
DE FERRERS Reginald (ABT 1200 - )
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Children by DE FERRERS William 1225 - BEF 1279
DE FERRERS Reginald (ABT 1254 - BEF 1305)
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