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DE HAUDLO Joan
Birth:          ABT 1317 Hadlo, Tunbridge, Kent, England

Notes
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=jweber&id=I34155
He [Amauri de St. Amand] married Eleanor [----] (c), and died 11 September 1381. 
[Complete Peerage XI:299-300, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(c) Said in his Inq.P.M. [Wilts] to have been one of the daughters and heirs of the Earl 
of "Herford".

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NOTE: The following, which corrects a CP error in the identity of Amauri's wife, is 
copied from the website: Some corrections and additions to the Complete Peerage 
(http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/saintamand.shtml):

There is no evidence for a wife of Amauri named Eleanor. Amauri married, before 3 
November 1329, Joan, one of the daughters of Maud, the daughter of Sir Philip 
Burnell, probably by her second husband, Sir John de Haudlo (d.1346). Joan was 
living in 1340. 

Both the name given in volume 11, Eleanor, and the description of her as a daughter 
and coheir of the earl of Hereford, appear to be based on a misreading of the 
inquisitions taken after Amauri's death. No wife of Amauri is mentioned in these 
inquisitions, but those for Gloucester and Wiltshire mention manors held by Amauri of 
the earl of Buckingham, as of the right of the earl's wife Eleanor (described as as 
daughter and one of the heirs of the earl of Hereford in the Wiltshire inquisition) [Cal. 
Inq. p. m., vol.15, nos 581-586]. (For Eleanor, daughter and coheir of Humphrey de 
Bohun, earl of Hereford etc., and wife of Thomas of Woodstock, earl of Buckingham, 
see Complete Peerage, vol.5, pp.719-728.) 

On 3 November 1329 an agreement was made between John de Haudlo, knight, lord 
of Boarstall, and John de St Amand, knight, lord of Woodhay, to settle lands of John 
de Haudlo on Richard, his son, and his wife Isabella, and lands of John de St Amand 
on Amauri, his son, and his wife Joan [H. E. Salter, ed., The Boarstall Cartulary 
(1930), no 602]. 

In 1340 John de Haudlo conveyed several manors and advowsons on Geoffrey de 
Scardeburgh and Thomas Asselote - John was to hold these for his life, and after his 
death they were to pass to his son Nicholas and his heirs [Essex Feet of Fines, vol.3, 
p.56]. An endorsement records that Amauri de St Amand and Joan his wife, Walter the 
son of John de Norwich and Margaret his wife, and Elizabeth the daughter of John de 
Haudlo put in their claim. Most of these manors had in 1331 been settled by John de 
Haudlo and Maud his wife on themselves and their male heirs, with successive 
remainders to Joan, Elizabeth and Margaret, daughters of Maud, for their lives, and to 
John son of John Lovel (Maud's son by her previous marriage) and his male heirs 
[Essex Feet of Fines, vol.3, p.21; licence was given for this settlement 10 February 
1330/1 (Calendar of Patent Rolls 1330-34, p.75)]. Clearly these three daughters are 
the same women who put in their claim in 1340. 

From the evidence above, it is clear that Amauri's wife Joan was one of the daughters 
of Maud Burnell. It is not quite so clear whether Joan was the daughter of Maud's first 
husband, John, Lord Lovel, or her second, Sir John de Haudlo. John Lovel had a 
daughter Joan, said to be aged 2, or 2 and more, in October 1314 [Complete Peerage, 
vol. 8, p. 217, note m]. John de Haudlo also had a daughter Joan, mentioned in a fine 
of 1326 [Essex Feet of Fines, vol.2, p.225]; she may not have been Maud's daughter, 
as he had previously been married to Joan, the daughter and heir of Sir John FitzNiel 
[Complete Peerage, vol. 6, p. 400]. 

But the agreement of 1329 suggests that Joan is likely to have been the daughter of 
John de Haudlo, and the chronology gives some support to this likelihood - Amauri 
was born in or around early 1314 [Complete Peerage, vol. 11, p. 299], and a daughter 
of Maud's second marriage would be somewhat younger than this, rather than 
somewhat older. 

[Douglas Richardson pointed out the feet of fines establishing the identity of Joan's 
mother in January 2002. Rosie Bevan supplied the 1329 agreement in September 
2003.]

Parents
DE HAUDLO John (BEF 1285 - 5 Aug 1346)
BURNELL Maud (ABT 1290 - BEF 17 May 1341)

Siblings
DE HAUDLO Joan (ABT 1317 - )

Marriage To DE ST. AMAND Amauri (ABT 1314 - 11 Sep 1381) m. Notes Parents DE ST. AMAND John (BEF 1283 - BEF 15 Jan 1330) LE DESPENSER Margaret (ABT 1292 - ) Children by DE ST. AMAND Amauri ABT 1314 - 11 Sep 1381
DE ST. AMAND Amauri (ABT 1341 - 13 Jun 1402)
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